This is a formal reply to those readers who don't get the Gay Pride moteif of yesterday's blog
I get what you say and why you say it..but your comments, to me were ill judged and rather offensive
I will endeavour to explain just why
The excesses of some gay flag wavers , to many seem irrelative. I know that
I am not particularly a fan of the sight of a sequinned budgie smuggler snake hipped twink flouncing atop a float myself but as a gay middle aged man whose sexuality is probably the least interesting thing about me, I will always fight for the right for that twink to wave his tush and raise his rainbow flag in anyone's face
Straight people will never understand how it feels to be gay
Christ it was only 50 years or so ago since homosexuality was made legal for men over 21in this country .
Legal !!!!
Illegal meant wrong, against the law, dirty, bad, terrible ............deviant ......
All the building bricks for negativity and prejudice and being hated
All the building bricks for guilt and shame and self loathing too
I grew up in the 1980s
Gays were hated then. AIDS was a monster avenger
And still over the 60s, 70s , and 80s men and women fought for equality and a chance to be viewed to be as normal as you straights
They fought long and hard
Straights , as I recall were never spat at in the street for holding the hand of a person they loved ( or even just liked)
Straights could marry the person they loved
And as many did so, the World and his wife would applaud
You straights will never know the trauma of comming out
The constant fear of rejection a gay child experiences when he knows he is different
The low level abuse , snide comments , put downs and stupidity of people fearful of something so alien they have to attack it
You will never know, like I don't, the true struggles of those brave souls that fought the system only a generation ago now
Souls that helped to eventually turn the tide on bigotry and hatred even though it's never really been totally eradicated
So dearhearts , please take it from me that it's fine for that sequinned arsed twink to have his excessive gay pride dances!!!
And it's fine for me to wear my occasional gay pride t shirt and post a blog about feeling all gay
I am proud to be gay , I'm proud to now have those rights straights have have enjoyed for ever !!!
I don't do it often
Like I said , being gay is not one of my most interesting facets
But when I do, it is the RIGHT thing for me as a gay man to do
Please instead of pouting with a narrow minded "We straights never hold straight pride tight arsed pout!"
Just try seeing things from another's perspective
If you can't , well then I would prefer that you didn't follow Going Gently
with its rainbow warts and all
Well said John!
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ReplyDeleteGood for you John, well said!
ReplyDeleteJohn, as usual, you're eloquent and speak from your heart and personal experiences. Too bad idiocy can't be replaced with empathy.
ReplyDeleteIt's not idiocy ....
DeleteI just people see things from their own corners
Thank you for such a well considered, articulate and moving post. You deserve to be proud in your pride. Paul
ReplyDeleteIn our Native culture, one of our greatest deities are Turquoise Boy and White Shell Girl in Navajo creation story. We don't and never did frown on homosexual because it was part of culture. However the colonization and assimilation to white culture, they taught us that being homosexual was evil. Although I was put in boarding school, I continued to learn about our culture. Today, we older folks teach our young ones to learn about our culture and that we live in harmony with the universe. However there are those that were brought up in the Christian way that teaches in a not so harmony way and that is sad.
ReplyDeleteBTW Turquoise Boy and White Shell Girl were both Nadleeh (possessed the traits of both male/female).
DeleteInteresting thank u
DeleteIt is called Two Spirits by the Indigenous people of Canada.
DeleteFascinating!
DeleteI am decidedly heterosexual but I would be waving my rainbow flag along with you if I had one. I salute your bravery and your honesty.
ReplyDeleteThank u
DeleteWell said John. I think it's so much easier for young people now. We have straight and gay family members, single and married. People can be more open and 'themselves' x
ReplyDeleteI wanted to explain just why celebrating gay and pride in being gay is so important
DeleteIt's your blog to say and do as you wish. If people don't like it they simply shouldn't be here.
ReplyDeleteBut I need to explain where I am coming from
DeleteRachel, but only gay men and women will truly understand what I am saying
I always look upon this as primarily a gay blog and I am just an also ran.
DeleteBeing homosexual has been legal in England since 1967. I personally think that there is no need to bang on about it but on a gay blog that is a different story and you can bang on about it as much as you like. I rarely if ever comment on your gay posts. It is not my territory.
DeleteBanging on is EXACTLY what is needed
DeleteI don't like your phrasing rachel
You just changed your response.
DeleteNothing to do with me, as I said, I keep out of your pride posts. If you want to talk about it like you do I am not grumbling and you are still the same person to me, my friend.
And you are mine rachel , always
DeleteBut if you had supported women's rights
I would never have referred to it as " banging on"
I changed it as I wanted to add to my response
DeleteBanging on is everyday parlance, don't over think it. I could have chosen better. Sorry.
DeleteWords are important
DeleteKnickers are getting twisted and horses are getting frightened here.
DeleteNope all is well
DeleteI hid my relationship for 20 years until the death of my partner. This was before gay marriage/civil partnerships were even thought of. How I'd like to march now. Not to flaunt my sexuality but celebrate the freedom to do so. Deb
ReplyDeleteNicely put ...the humanity I wanted to share you succinctly made real in a single sentence x
DeleteWell said John!
ReplyDeleteBeautifully put. It is so easy for a privileged faction of society to dismiss another when "it's sorted." But they never went though it. And the young never bore witness to it. So, it's important to remember. There's still a long way to go.
ReplyDeleteWell said John, I have two daughters, both happily married. One to a fabulous man and one to a fabulous woman. They were brought up to love and be loved, by the person of their choice. They chose well x
ReplyDeleteAnd that lifestyle has to be celebrated
DeleteYes it does! and accepted as "normal" and healthy. Happy PRIDE you lovely man x
DeleteStraight people don't realize how much and how often they "flaunt" THEIR sexual orientation in everyone's face -- i.e. constantly, LOL! It's invisible to them because of their powerful sense of pure entitlement. And yes, they should flaunt it! Sexual orientation is a beautiful thing. And so is OURS and there's no harm showing it off either.
ReplyDeletePride Parades happen for a couple of hours on one day per year. It's not like Mr Twink is gyrating on a float 24/7 all year long. Get some perspective, people! Sheesh.
Good point my dear friend xxx thank u my dearheart x
DeleteWell put, Debra, and so so so true! What if straight people were targeted for holding hands in public!?! Gasp!
DeleteExactly!
DeleteWell said.
ReplyDeleteWell done, John.
ReplyDeletewhen will people ever get the fact that no matter who or what we are, we just want to be thought of and treated like everyone else. and that we have that right.
ReplyDeleteAnd when we have achieved some parity we should be able to celebrate it
DeleteA few years ago a young man told me that his friend was attacked badly in a gay bar in the town near to where I live for no reason other than being gay x
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DeleteJohn, Well said. Your words brought tears to my eyes because for me it has been a struggle most of my life to simply accept who I am. Thanks for this post.
ReplyDeleteThank you for being my friend x
DeleteI don't see this as a gay blog. It is a blog of a lovely man and his fur family in their little haven of Wales. I hope I live to see everyone being treated as equal and with respect. A person's sexuality should be nobody's business but that person's and they shouldn't be discriminated against or attacked because of it. It was decriminalized in Canada in 1969 by the father of our present Prime Minister. It should never have been criminalized in the first place. Much love and hugs to you John.
ReplyDeleteIt's a blog about a guy who happens to be gay marj x
DeleteI am a very proud mum and ally. Happy Pride John x
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DeleteI am proud to be a mum to a gay son. When he tearfully told me he was gay at about 15; after sobbing in his bedroom for hours before and making me wonder what the hell was wrong; I said something along the lines of oh is that all.. I felt so relieved. Good for you John...you should celebrate more often.
ReplyDeleteJo in Auckland
So agree. Everyone seems to think they have the right to comment on everything someone else does and apply it to their own way of thinking. Do you know what, we don't! I think if people thought of others as individuals and not tried to lump people into boxes to suit themselves life would be so much sweeter for everybody. Love your blog John. Was thinking of you today when someone annoyed me and yes they did have cheap shoes on!! So wish I'd been able to tell them!! Laura x
ReplyDeleteVery interesting post, John. Please don’t take my comments on the previous post as meaning other than, don’t really care for the t shirt and didn’t like the music.
ReplyDeleteI find it sad that your blog would be seen as a predominantly gay blog. The Uk might have decided homosexuality was legal in 1967 but in some countries it is still not legal!
Not trying to change the subject at all but to me it is a bit like some white response to black lives matter...all lives matter...of course they fucking do but that is not the bloody point here!
So please do keep “banging on” about your life!
BTW still don’t like the t shirt!
You don't have to wear it lol
DeleteBugger just re-read your post and now cannot get the picture of a rainbow wart out of my mind!
ReplyDeleteKisses to Albert
He's upstairs on the spare bed
DeleteQuickly read your response and was thinking how a rainbow wart could asleep on the spare bed!
DeleteI remember the struggles of my dear friend (and partner in crime) from high school, who was one of the first to fall in the AIDS epidemic in the 80s. At the end he was afraid he was going to hell for being gay. It broke my heart. His obituary in our small-town newspaper said he died of cancer, so his parents wouldn't be shamed. Recently my niece came out and is with her lovely fiancee. My sister, a loving, but very conservative right-wing Catholic, thinks she's just going through a phase. Sigh. I wish we could just celebrate people for who they are. Stay loud and proud, John!
ReplyDeleteWell said John. To everything.
ReplyDeleteThe US Supreme Court just ruled on JUNE 2020 about discrimination against LGBT Americans:
ReplyDelete"LGBT rights advocates triumphed at the Supreme Court Monday, winning a sweeping decision from the justices that protects gay, lesbian and transgender employees from being disciplined, fired or turned down for a job based on their sexual orientation." Trump and conservatives were against this decision so LGBT Americans still have people here that want to take away their rights! Terrible!
So celebrate all you want, John! and thanks for your post!
Trump is homophobic
DeleteSo is that idiot Pence! Ugh!
DeleteTrump is everything good and decent phobic
DeleteHummmm
DeleteWell said.
ReplyDeleteWe're each wonderfully unique - just like everybody else - and that's all that matters.
Be true in heart.
Be yourself. Nobody else is qualified.
Big hugs!
love that pix with mary resting her head on the rainbow flag.
ReplyDeletejohn is free to live his life out and proud. and I will support his right to live his life out and proud, as I do all my gay friends.
gay people have been around forever; the haters just didn't notice their fabulousness. and from experience, my gay friends have been REAL friends to me (unlike str8 friends). GET OVER IT, HATERS!
AM YOU HAVE BEEN A GAY ADVOCATE for years xx
Deletesmooches, luv!
DeleteI read this blog because you are you, John, and you love and care for people. (I think that's the only T-shirt you've modelled that I like!)
ReplyDeleteYoundarling
DeleteThis is a sad post, having to explain this is heartbreaking, I really can't understand anyone who judges another. We are all who we are, and lables are just wrong. Bang your drum loudly John.
ReplyDeleteI always will x
DeleteLate to the party, as ever. Just wanted to endorse what you say, which sounds pretty bland but is totally not what I mean. Back in the 1970s 2 good friends from Uni came out as gay; one of them died of Aids in the 80s. My son is gay, much loved, living his life with his partner. I'm so glad they can be out and proud. I love your blog, John; thank you for all you write, and for saying it so eloquently. Jxx
ReplyDeleteJan x
DeleteLove you John, have always and will always be proud of who you are. ❤
ReplyDeleteWell said
ReplyDeleteHooray!
ReplyDeleteI saw a clip of a comic (a black man whose name I've forgotten, sorry) who pointed out that the mainstream (white, straight, male) are always banging on about how "minorities" should forget the past, stop making a fuss, and move on.
The past is over.
Meanwhile...
The Alamo? Pearl Harbor? 9/11?
NEVER FORGET.
Made me laugh. Right. People don't like to be reminded of things THEY want to forget.
(All US references, but I imagine there are UK ones along the same lines?
Guy Fawkes Day looks really blood-thirsty to this Yank.)
Let us wave a flag of pride in who we are and where we've come from.
History matters.
P.S. I think Mr Twink and the Dykes on Bikes and other outliers are the bravest, because they face the most condemnation, from in and outside their community.
I'm proud of them, too!
Onward!
Go for it John. Love you to bits for your courage and honesty.
ReplyDeleteAs an older heterosexual woman, I am proud of my gay friends, proud of all the gay men I admire (too many to list, but include Andrew Scott, Nigel Slater, Mark Gatiss, Matt Albar, Paul O'Grady, Tchiakovsky, etc)proud of the fact that their bravery in dealing with every aspect of life is constant and heart breaking that this is how it has to be. Or live a lie to placate people unworthy of deserving that consideration. Because that is all about fear, fear of humanity. The tenet and the morality are simple. Live and let live. For there, but for the grace of God, go you. I will shut up now before I really rant. Except.....Remember what happened to Alan Turing. And be grateful society is, should be, trying to change for the better.
P.S. I found the stand-up comic I'd mentioned:
ReplyDeleteMichael Che.
"Why do black people always have to get over sh*t so quickly?"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MVjwnNIg4
Lol
DeleteLove it! Really important insight!
DeleteWell I like the t-shirt but I am so out of touch I thought it was the support the NHS rainbow thing. I often get confused. My best friend during my 1st year at university was the president of the Gay Society, then I realised that explained why girls didn't seem at all interested in me for about six months, much to my annoyance, because I hung about with him so much they all assumed I was his boyfriend... people get confused. So I actually had to "come out" as a heterosexual (does that make me unique?) and suddenly, after finding ways to make my orientation clear, getting a girlfriend was surprisingly simple. Life is confusing. I think the President of the Gay Society was a bit disappointed in me though. Life is complicated. Your blog is indeed, just an interesting blog by a bloke, to me.
ReplyDeleteAnd that's what I want it to be .
DeleteLike I said , just occasionally I need to bang on about the gays!!!
Bravo, well said,
ReplyDelete“I am not particularly a fan of the sight of a sequinned budgie smuggler snake hipped twink flouncing atop a float”
ReplyDeleteNow I wanna flounce atop a float.
Loved your t-shirt when you made that post. Still love it.
XoXo
Sashay away !!!!!
DeleteNicely said John, and thank you.
ReplyDeleteMy cousin is a 72 year old gay man who never openly came out to his family. When his partner died, it was a "friend" who died, not his loving partner. It's heartbreaking.
ReplyDeleteTake care John and nicely put.
You have warts?
ReplyDeleteSometimes I wonder if some of your readers have any boundaries
ReplyDeleteGay children still struggle, says the grandmother of four gays. A therapist told one of them, on learning there were three more gay siblings, Excuse me a minute, I must leave the room and think about that. I think a new therapist may be in order.
ReplyDeleteLol that made me titter
DeleteGay, straight, trans....we have all in our family. Makes no difference to me, we're all just family. I love your t-shirt. Being white it'll show up stains more though John - best not eat or drink wearing it ;-)
ReplyDeleteAlready has coffee spots on it ☕️
DeleteKudos and 5 thumbs up, Mr. Grey
ReplyDeleteWe haven't come as far as a society as those commenters seemed to think we have, if you (John) have to explain why you celebrate Pride ...
ReplyDeleteI'm glad for you and all those for whom it's now entrenched in law to openly love who you want to love. I'm sad for all those around the world who do not yet have that right - or who had it and have had it rescinded.
I had to go back to the previous posting to see what had been said. Good for you John; the world has changed, but a few are still left behind. If they sat in a quiet place for a while and seriously thought about their prejudice, they might come to a different conclusion.
ReplyDeleteJohn i do appreciate you taking the time to explain things to me. I guess .... My vision of what gays really want is different from the reality of it.. To me success means that being gay is no big deal .. its just a sexual preference and accepted just like being straight.. Is that not the goal? To walk down the street holding hands.. kissing in public... being able to marry.. I believe all that is the way it should be. So please don't misunderstand me.. If you are lucky enough in life to find someone to love and have that love returned to you in whatever form well then you are just about the luckiest person on the planet.. I still don't understand the need to flaunt it with emblems and parades... Perhaps as time goes on it will fade away and gays will just be absorbed into society as it should be.. Nothing special.. just a normal way of life .. Isn't that what you want? I just don't see it happening with things like the parades and such... If you keep making a spectacle of yourself how can you be perceived as a regular part of society? deb
ReplyDeleteThere is also ( for many gay people) a need to celebrate that they are different but just as worthy
DeleteThis is an interesting situation coming as it does in the middle of the Black Lives Matter surge; It is good to have this evidence of how strong the mainstream culture is, not recognizing that almost everything they (we) do is flaunting whiteness, straightness, and/or maleness, and often making a spectacle of ourselves in the process. But we're fish swimming in that water and blind to it. As John has said so well, the people who have been left/kept out in often cruel, sometimes fatal ways are entitled to a little flaunting now and then. I'm "in" as far as straight and white, but "out" as far as male; and when second wave feminism hit (I was in grad school) and my eyes were opened to my own gender's oppression, you can bet I was loud and flaunting with emblems and parades, and pretty angry too. (Fifty years later I'm calmer, can even read books written by (some) white males now.)
DeleteThe dominant culture has never just magnanimously let new groups of people in; they always have had to make loud and sometimes unseemly protests.
Dare I say, not everyone thinks "a normal way of life" is all that great. You don't have to be gay to find the idea of everyone being "normal" a stifling proposition.
DeleteIt's the people who "think different" who move culture along... in interesting ways.
Got imagination, color, an interesting history, new and wacky and outrageous ideas?
Why NOT flaunt it with pride?
Flamboyance and outrageousness "fade away"? God forbid!
I think most minority groups have a need to gather and celebrate their identity as a community. Just as there are holidays and festivals associated with different racial, ethnic and religious groups, we have Pride. I disagree that "making a spectacle of ourselves" somehow distances us from "regular society" (whatever that is). In fact, Pride emphasizes that we are PART of "regular society," while still being a distinct community.
DeleteWell said Steve x
DeleteWell said John, in fact someone commented that your blog is an interesting and friendly place to come to. I enjoy your writing, love for animals and the fact that you stand up for what is right (whatever the subject may be). Ro xxx
ReplyDeleteI didn't read the hostile comments you refer to made on your last blog-post, probably because my own comment was made before the nasty ones started to appear - and I'm in no mood to go back and read them now as I know I'd feel precisely the way you do.
ReplyDeleteI came out 'properly' in 1975, at the late-ish age of 28, made less difficult as I had by then started to live away from my parents. The 'kindest' word said to me in the open-plan office I then worked in was "What you need is a good woman!" which itself hurt like hell as it encapsulated so much of the lack of understanding which was prevalent in those days - and still is. But that was said directly to my face. There were other far more disparaging and, indeed, hateful remarks made when they thought they were out of ear-shot, but clearly were not [perhaps they were secretly hoping I WOULD hear].
Anyway, JayGee. I'm at one with you on your attitude to those who flamboyantly 'parade' their campness. Many years ago I wished they'd 'tone it down' as it embarrassed ME. Then, although I couldn't camp it up myself if I tried, I began to feel the same sense of exhilaration that these brave souls in spangly lurex felt - and when I see it now my attitude is "Good for them!" wishing that I'd had their ballsy courage when I was their tender ages, something to be valued so much that WE can do, unlike those unfortunate to be living now in most African and Asian countries, as well as Eastern Europe and Russia.
The watchword of my life is 'Mutatis mutandis'- with bells on!
Less hostile more misinformed xx
DeleteI've tried to answer as many comments but I'm off to work for another long day xxx
ReplyDeleteVery well-said dear John. I remember the days when it was illegal all too well. Also I have a transgender Grandson whom I love dearly and I know what trauma and misery he suffered in his last two years at school and how long it has taken for him to feel comfortable in his own skin. He marries later this year. We are what we are. I have never understood why it can be seen as quite 'naughty' by some misguided individuals to have numerous affairs and cheat on one's heterosexual partner, causing a lot of heartache and yet the same individual thinks it wicked to have a loving same sex partner. Be proud of it - as you quite rightly are.
ReplyDeleteA gay man is the best friend a women can ever have. Veronica
ReplyDeleteGAYmen, veronica!
DeleteWell said John. Those who comment that you don't see xyz parading just don't get it.
ReplyDeleteMy God, if it wasn't for those bloody marvellous Suffragettes parading, we women wouldn't have the right to vote !!! X
Yes they paraded to get what they want but now the gays have what they want..can't they just live it?
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DeleteOh dear Jin , I'm afraid you are so wrong
DeleteBravo again, John.
ReplyDeleteWe are so lucky to be living in a time where you can openly celebrate being who you are, loving who you love. I’m a proud mum of a gay son and nephew. My sons partner loves shaking his sequinned tush and I’m right there alongside him.
ReplyDeleteIt’s because people fight their corner and speak up that they get their freedom. A straight person will never understand what it’s like to be gay ... or black etc etc. Being straight/white means that we have never had to deal with racism or homophobia, to suffer abuse, daily sometimes and not have the same rights, so have no right to comment negatively. Everyone’s lives matter, we are all different and should celebrate the fact that we are.
ReplyDeleteWear your rainbow t shirt with pride John ... although, your angle isn’t as good today as yesterday’s 🤣🤣🤣 XXXX
Well said John. Proud Mum here (youngest son)...I know there is still so much to fight for, and I will be standing alongside my son the whole way xx
ReplyDeleteI am a lot older than you and can remember when I thought being called to the office meant they had "found out" and I was being fired Fast forward to 1996 when I retired and my partner was sitting at the head table at my retirement party. We have come so far but are still not safe here in Trump country. Fly your flag high!
ReplyDeleteThank you peter
DeleteNever was I as proud of my state as when the marriage amendment was passed. I saw deeply rural and working-class counties surpass the expectations of the metropolitan area. And it was then that I could comprehend just how much this needs to be celebrated every day. Loudly.
ReplyDeleteBonnie in Minneapolis
The first boy I shared a kiss with at age 11, later told me he had something to say. 'I like boys'.
ReplyDeleteWell I said that's a relief. I thought it was me. His life wasn't the best at school, his family took to it like a 'duck to water' never a problem.
We lost touch eventually.
About 40 years later he popped up on FB. Eventually he tells me life turned out good and he got married a few years back. For which I am eternally happy, it makes up hopefully for the terrible time he has at school.
I later discover one of the worst tormentors was also gay. A turn up for the books, maybe. One does protest to much.
Life can be such a journey.
Well said.
ReplyDeleteThough I have never thought of this as a 'primarily gay blog' as some have said. I just see it as your blog, for you to fill with all the facets of your life warts (be they rainbow or not) and all.
Oh and I still LOVE the t-shirt :-)
Well said, except for bad taste on the t shirt!
DeleteBrilliantly said! Well done!!!
ReplyDeleteJohn, I love your blog. Sometimes it's about your animals, sometimes about your work and sometimes it's about your pride in being gay. Plus a few more bits and pieces.
ReplyDeleteI just love what you write, and the idiots who say mean things, to you - well, fuck 'em, I say.
I do love your blog, but don't always have the time to reply. Bad Rozzie!
I'll try to do better!
I didn't read the comments yesterday because the subject matter was your business, not mine. I haven't read today's comments yet. I'm sad that you had to defend yourself because of yesterday's comments. Because I'm commanded to love my neighbor as myself, it's understood that I'm not in any way to judge my neighbor. So I love you John, just as you are, and although I have my own beliefs and thoughts about your beliefs and thoughts, from the bottom of my heart I wish for you a happy and fulfilling life - it is your life, after all!! Keep writing John. I'm still over here rooting for you to get that book started!!! ♥♥♥ (I pray for you, too.)
ReplyDeleteLaws can be changed, unfortunately, ignorant minds can’t or won’t. A good person is good person no matter his/her color, sexuality, or creed. I notice that this is more of the thinking today, especially among the young. They give me hope.
ReplyDeleteAmen! Thanks for this, John.
ReplyDeleteThanks jimbo
DeleteI'd like to add one more thing, now that I thought of it. If somebody has a problem with expressions of Pride, be it a rainbow shirt or a parade, then I suspect they'll eventually have a problem with two men holding hands and kissing in public. I mean, it doesn't make much sense to me that someone would object to a SYMBOL of gayness, such as a rainbow, but not the actual gayness itself.
ReplyDeleteI sometimes think that instead of calling them parades we should go back to calling them MARCHES, since I see them as basically a political statement--a political statement that as a queer I wholeheartedly endorse.
Thank you Kirk
DeleteJust here to point out that we are privileged in much of the 'western' world to be able to march in a parade, to hold hands in public, to fly our rainbow flag, etc. In many places on this benighted planet we are still attacked, jailed, condemned, even killed for being gay.
ReplyDeleteThank you, John, for contributing to the rational dialog around this fragile right so recently won.
xoxoxox
Nicely put my friend
DeleteBravo.
ReplyDeleteThe thing many straight people don't understand, when they say things like "why do gay people have to flaunt their sexuality," is that straight sexuality is flaunted EVERY SINGLE DAY in everything from television and pop culture, to husbands and wives kissing goodbye on the corner or at the tube, to the laws of our respective lands. This was especially true decades ago when gay culture was, as you point out, illegal and essentially invisible. So hell yes, it's time for us to be proud and to flaunt and remind the world that we are here. I'm thrilled that the culture has finally broadened enough that we can now see ourselves in pop culture and in public office -- and that's largely a result of campaigns including pride marches.
And now I'm getting angry so I'll stop there. :)
Carrry on being angry
DeleteI think there is a place for it
Well said both of you. I am glad that you can be proud of being yourselves..and glad that you are both great bloggers and people.
DeleteWell said, and thank you!
ReplyDeleteWell said John. I was born in the 1950s and I have any gay friends of my age who were subject to dreadful abuse during the 70s and 80s.
ReplyDeleteJinxxxgirl: No, the gays don't all have what they wanted. They are still being hunted, tortured, beaten and abused. In my opinion, finally we can celebrate and parade around that gay folks now have recognition for equality at least in some countries. I watched a documentary Chechnya, Russia where literally families are told to kill or silence their gay family member(s). A group came together to rescue those that called for help to relocate them to countries that would accept them...most went to Canada. Another documentary with Erwin McGregor's motorcycle travel through Africa, they interviewed a young female couple who were in hiding to avoid being killed. So, yeah, it is a time for celebration to know that we live in a country where gays can now openly live their lives without being persecuted for something they cannot genetically control. Jinxxxgirl, you need to open your eyes and see what's going on around you beyond your horizon to understand.
ReplyDeleteWell put Rita x
DeleteAgreed, well said
DeleteI'll throw in an "Amen!" to that, as well.
DeleteJohn l am not making light of a serious and important subject. But here is one of my little stories. When l lived in London l worked with and was friends with many gay guys. I was a typical fag hag and l loved the company, cor' could they put the booze away! Anyway one raucus night l was in a pub with 2 of the boys and we were all pretty merry and a young boy/girl couple at the next table asked what our relationship was?, friend Paul pipes up with 'oh we ( the 2 boys) are together' and she (me) tags on and pays us £5.00 an hour to watch!!!
ReplyDeleteThe couple drank up and left swiftly.
Oh how I miss that company sooo much, and l never gave them a fiver for anything l may add.
Tess xx
Perhaps the post is wise to end on some levity
DeleteWell John, I always read your blog, but seldom comment. When I mention it to other people, I always comment that you are a nurse, with a sense of humour and compassion, that you have a number of dogs. The fact you are gay ,I would not mention unless it was relevant, why should I.?
ReplyDeleteThank you for all the effort and thought ,that goes into your blog. xx
Kathy
I danced the 80's away. :)
ReplyDeleteThis is one of your best posts John and the comments are interesting and thought provoking (well hopefully they are the latter).
ReplyDeleteThe word “flaunt” has been used. As a fully paid up member of the language pedant club a dictionary definition of flaunt is “display (something) ostentatiously, especially in order to provoke envy or admiration or to show defiance.”
I don’t think most straights would ever consider that their sexual “preference” (to use a term noted above) was flaunted in society or the media. It just is. It is the majority, uncontroversial, accepted, standard, typical, usual...the norm. In the same way as being right handed is the norm. It wasn’t that long ago that people who were left handed were made to write with their right hands.
But, for me, that thinking is missing something, well not just something a bloody big something. It is still illegal to be gay in many parts of the world. Some think it can be “cured”. Even in countries where it is no longer illegal (I typed legal originally and the. Realised how stupid that was...how can who you are not be legal!) coming out is still a thing, not only in professional sport but in everyday life! There still people in the public eye who have to hide who they are.
PS still don’t like the T-shirt!
I've bought another!!!
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DeleteI really do hope these t-shirts are going to be worn INSTEAD of the various Walking Dead adverts you stick on your chest ;-)
DeleteI read your blog. I love hearing your stories. I wish we could live in a world where we didn't need to fight for anyone's rights and children weren't afraid of losing a parent because of their sexual identity. I am a proud mom of a transgender daughter. I lost friends and family but I don't care. I love my child.
ReplyDeleteIt was so strange to have experienced Pride here during a pandemic. I tell you it felt like any other weekend day save for the occasional rainbow flag gear some were sporting.
ReplyDeleteThe 80s were a devastating time, as you well know. I have vague yet persistent memories of seeing men with sarcoma lesions on their skin. My own, dear Uncle succumbed to AIDS/HIV related causes in '86.
Come next year during Pride, should we be through this, I will welcome all the revelers (either fully dressed or in butt-less chaps) coming to town!
Our Granddaughter has recently said she feels like a boy, she said this after a period of real unhappiness even her teaches noticed. She has been much more settled and happy by just telling us. Thank goodness so much of the hard work that’s been by the LGBTQ community means her life won’t be as hard. She’s not ready for anyone but family to know which is why I still call my little love granddaughter. She has started to see a gender physiatrist to help with whatever she needs. Jo
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It's been a long while since I read your blog, kind of sad to see that hatred and bigotry are still alive and well. Just keep on being the wonderful person you are and those who don't like it for whatever reason can F-off.
ReplyDeleteScanning the comments I haven't seen any hatred here, just one or two differences of opinion about pride marches and their place in furthering society, but all in all nobody is or was hating anyone.
ReplyDeleteI agree just a few ideas and thoughts that needed clarifying and explaining
DeleteJohn, I am glad you are proud to be who you are because that’s all any of us should be. It shouldn’t matter what a persons sexuality is, they are a person and they have a right to ‘Well in the free world at least’ be just who they are. After all like you said your sexuality isn’t what defines you as John. I like reading your blog because it’s interesting and you seem to be a really love man who is just living the best life he can with his pets. I couldn’t give a jot if you were gay or straight, white , black, purple or any other colour. All the best from Ramsgate. Keep being you!
ReplyDeleteGive my best to ramsgate
DeleteI always liked the town
Am late with this but - if a video of a gay parade is so offensive to some, why did those people look at it, and then insult you about its content, instead of just not accessing the video? In the closet, I would think. Roderick
ReplyDeleteTo be fair they didn't insult me, but I was offended by two people's. Somewhat subjective view on why do gays celebrate pride
DeleteBravo !!! Well said.
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DeleteI supported the Gay Liberation Front in London in the early seventies and yes, things were very different then to the more relaxed attitudes of today. If some people still aren't happy at the idea of gays doing their thing, perhaps they should just keep quiet.
ReplyDeleteWay to go nick !!
DeleteWell said John. A lovely friend of mine told me he was gay a couple of years ago he's in his late 60s. I'd guessed tbh but felt humbled that he told me. He hadn't shared it with many people and he said he felt sad that his parents never knew. He felt even sadder that he didn't feel he could tell the world and so had spent his life with many friends but no close partner. He would make a wonderful partner, kind, caring, funny. I'm proud he is my friend. Everyone had the right to be happy xx
ReplyDeleteWell said. My brother killed himself with the self loathing you mentioned. I say give people a break.
ReplyDeleteI love your blog you are a compassionate, caring man who like me loves animals and are generous and funny all people should be allowed to be who they are and be proud of their sexuality please remain who you are John
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