Now I am not all Julie Andrews when it comes down to a good swear, but I do think that there is a time and a place for expletives to be unleashed!
The odd " fucker" is acceptable , especially at times of high emotion but I hate any thought of swearing in front of children, and in public generally especially if you don't know if your chosen words of expression could insult or upset.
Donald Trump's new communication man, Anthony Scaramucci's foul mouthed attack on his predecessors underlines a predictable and worrying step by the Trump administration back into street behaviour. It isn't, as Scaramucci would insist, just colourful language. It is a way to bully and to intimidate, very much like a mean dog barking at the wind.....and in my mind it shows just how unstatesmanlike TRUMP is to pick a foul mouthed thug as his communications man! ( communications man for Christsake! )
Having said all this I remember I once worked with a Hospital Chaplain who was the most irritating , patronising and thoroughly pious individual one would ever have the misfortune to meet. One day I saw him stop a entire Church service to theatrically remove a box of smokes from the hands of a long term psychiatric patient, and with his nose in the air as he slipped the tin under his surplus, another patient, a woman in her sixties , chirped up very loudly in a home counties crystal cut accent
" You are a real first class cunt !"
Like I said there is a time and a place
Everything about the Trump administration is ugly and lowest common denominator, this is a new low but he is great at new lows.
ReplyDeleteYour pious chaplain got what he deserved
How I wish some of the other patients in the church of Trump would call him for what he is.
ReplyDeleteI wish I'd been present when the ex army Chaplain who was taking my step father's funeral told my grieving mother there wasn't time to do all the singing she wanted at the funeral as it was a sausage factory. Bastard.
ReplyDeleteIt is always acceptable to swear at priests I think. They are trained to withstand it. Re Scaramucci (I had to refer to your spelling), birds of a feather...
ReplyDeleteBush?
ReplyDeleteI thought John was referring to the last quote from the very proper Home Counties lady with a very, very fruity turn of phrase!
DeleteDuh ! Why did i originally type bush?
DeleteTrump aaaaarg. Anything to do with this clown makes me a fish wife.
ReplyDeleteYes, Bush? Even that dingdong couldn't hold a candle to the present idiot. Nothing that comes out of the miasma of the present administration surprises me. It's like watching a freak show.
ReplyDeleteA retirement moment duh
DeleteMy nan never swore, even when my pap nearly burnt the house down, she only called him a clumsy sod. As she declined towards the end of her life, her swearing lexicon became extensive. It was as thought 90+ years of bottled up bad language had been uncorked. It was light relief at a difficult time. I swear like a docker x
ReplyDeleteLisa, my dad had Alzheimers and went from a sweet, lovely man to a foul-mouthed trooper and aggressive. That definitely wasn't my dad but it makes you wonder doesn't it.
DeleteIt certainly does. Who knows what the brain absorbs and stores away without us realising.
DeleteAnthony Scaramucci? As Freddie Mercury sang:-
ReplyDelete"Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango?"
This was appropriately followed by "Very, very frightening".
Trust you
DeleteI love the conclusion.
ReplyDeleteI never knew the woman who sooke up which was a shame
DeleteI don't swear around kids or the elderly and I generally filter myself around strangers, but it's odd that whenever I see Trump on the TV, 'cunt' is the first word that springs to mind.
ReplyDeleteI HEART Dave.
DeleteThere are cunts being ecchoed around the world
DeleteHahaha Dave... me too
DeleteJo in Auckland, NZ
FUCK THE ENTIRE DUMP DICTATORSHIP! LOCK THEM UP!
ReplyDeleteAnd he talked about "Crooked" Hillary! HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!
Deleteif Hillary did anything, it pales in comparison to this arsehole!
DeleteIt keeps getting worse and worse with the Trump administration. It's far worse than I imagined it would be and that's saying something. Did you hear the speech Trump gave to the Boy Scouts? The man can't be appropriate to save his life. Disgraceful, the whole rotten lot of them.
ReplyDeleteI just googled it...........really?
DeleteThe man needs to re-live, over and over, the "glory days" of his campaign. I call it public masturbation.
DeleteGreat way to make your point. I keep it bottled up, there is a appropriate time and place for everything, and my office is not the place for words I would sometimes like to say.
ReplyDeleteDespite their golden boys image, the Kennedys had connections with the Mafia, and were serial adulterers. LBJ & Nixon were foul-mouthed, warmongering, crooks. Good ol' Jimmy Carter funded and supported the Afghan mujahideen, paving the way for today's Islamic fundamentalism. The Clintons are as shady as it comes, whilst Bush Jnr was a nitwit warmonger. Obama? He okayed plenty of drone bombings, and kept Guantanamo open. Trump is no better, no worse; to pretend otherwise is virtue-signalling myopia. ALL of them make me swear.
ReplyDeleteWell said.
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DeleteIf you're trying to say "all of our modern leaders have made mistakes, Trump is just the most recent one." Then yeah, I guess that was well said. No one is perfect, and we dont expect them to be. But we do expect intelligence, pragmatism, and a basic amount of human decency--all of which is absent from this administration and this administration alone. Dismissing Trump as no worse than those before him enables and empowers such lunacy and contempt. Expect more. Demand more. Rant over.
DeleteWell said Chris! Just because others had flaws, this doesn't exonerate Trump. He is in an entirely different league.
DeleteNo worse? Please. Well put Chris.
DeleteKennedy ramped up a Vietnam war that eventually cost over a million 'enemy', and @60,000 US, lives. For what? LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, and Regan facilitated quasi-fascist regimes all over South America; hundreds of thousands were tortured or murdered. Clinton & Bush Jnr. carried on the war politics; the latter opening a Pandora's Box of bloodlust, that eventually begat Isis.
DeleteThose weren't 'flaws', 'mistakes', or 'a lack of human decency'. Large scale numbers of people were systematically murdered by successive American administrations, who worshipped at the altar of the war machine.
Trump might wear his loudmouthed oafishness on his sleeve, but he's essentially no different to the scum that preceded him.
I think to run a nation you have to be respectful and statesmanlike to have any credibility at home and abroad. I dont deny that Trump may possess an honesty about who he is and what he thinks and some of me respects that and the courage it takes to be yourself. But i think you cannot be thuggish and rude when you are in a position of power
Delete"the mooch" is a real douche bag.
ReplyDeleteI so agree!
DeleteEvery day I wake up disgusted by what some in this country did, by voting for _____, or not voting at all, making his election easy.
ReplyDeleteHe, simply put, is the worst.
And I would be that sixty-year-old woman.
We Brits have made bad choices too!
DeleteHe is a Trump mini me. John McCain showed last night what it means to be an thoughtful and decent man. The difference between Trump and McCain says it all.
ReplyDeleteSometimes i feelsorry for Trump.....his stupidity and bullishness will overshadow any good ideas he now acts on
DeleteDon't EVER feel sorry for Trump. TRUST ME on this.
DeleteEveryday with Trump and his minions, we hit a new low.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the guy Scaramuchii just saw The Big Sick.
ReplyDeleteI need to see this movie me thinks
DeleteThe Trump presidency is a horror. He is dismantling our country. My 83 yo mother is threatening to repatriate to the UK. Can I send her your way?
ReplyDeleteIs she rich?
DeleteThe UK is also being dismantled. I regularly use the same word as the patient did to the priest when I see what the Tories are doing to this country.
DeleteIt troubles me that there is an edge of violence in US politics that seems imply that it's ok to hate, insult and hurt people.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, the same things seem to be happening here in the UK especially since Brexit with an increase in anti-semitic and other racist rhetoric and violence. I used to feel proud of belonging to a nation famed for its tolerance (although watching the current programmes in the BBC's gay season is making me rethink that as well), but no longer. I'd apply for European nationality if it were possible, unforunately I have no way to do that.
We all need to be a little nicer to each other, and that includes our leaders
DeleteI have always thought that the ease with which people use foul language in front of children is awful as well as in company when you don't know everyone.
ReplyDeleteI am probe to the F-word popping into my speech here and there but only when appropriate/with the right person/generally in a humorous way... I knew someone from London who would say "Well F*** me !" when he was surprised and for some reason, it always made me giggle like a child ... he always had a twinkle in his eye when he said it.
Sadly that political attitude is not limited to US politics .. as we all know too well if we see the news these days ..
PRONE- I am prone .....
DeleteI thoroughly approve of the foul-mouthed sexagenarian's response. Exactly what the chaplain deserved.
ReplyDeleteMy grandfather was a Marine Sgt .. I have no memory of him ever saying anything that would be considered not polite lol ... I, on the other hand ... love to see the shock on someone's face when I do use a word or two that are less than polite.
ReplyDeleteMy husband used to say that there are times and places for everything including using the worst language possible ..
Exactly - there is a time and place for everything. He may (or may not) be any worse than previous presidents but for God's sake at least try to look a little bit classy, as opposed to pushing other world leaders out of the way when it's time for a photo. If that many was a kid in your child's class you would say he needed "treatment".
DeleteAlways a time and place for such individuals indeed, and oh they are quite deserving.
ReplyDeleteThere is no dignity left in Washington, the Repugs have destroyed the USA, hopefully one day we can regain the stranglehold they seem to have. I will not be watching this repulsive man!
ReplyDelete1- I can't blame the Repubs or Dems. The entire country had a choice .. but too many were afraid to vote for a woman. Who had much more experience than the Hotel guy.
Delete2- I keep hoping he will get tired of being President and let someone else take over .. lol ... or get impeached or something.
Things will change for the better they always do!
DeleteJust when you think it can't get worse in Washington, it does. Its like a very bad dream. We are totally screwed and no one has the mind to do anything about it. The man in the White House is not stable and neither are the people that surround him. The only people with any sense are the ones that are resigning positions and the lucky one are those that are getting fired.
ReplyDeleteI think its this perceived instability that worries the world the most..especially with lunatics like the North Koreans bombing the Japanese seas
DeleteAnd she hit that place with perfect timing. What do you want to bet that old beggar took them home and smoked them?
ReplyDeleteHe once slipped on a pee puddle in tge centre of the church during a christmas service once... All the student nurses were in stitches
DeleteTruly America has hit a new low...but wait until tomorrow!! Because with this crappy group "in charge", it will be a new lower low tomorrow...they can't help themselves. The entire administration makes me sick. I dread visiting Germany in October and trying to explain what the hell happened last November!
ReplyDeleteOh amy....
DeleteAmy, I remember when we lived in Buenos Aires and someone started discussing politics with us and it was so uncomfortable because we did not vote for the person but suddenly we were being asked to account for the bad choice ...much like this one but not as bad .
DeleteAnd part of the annoyance/irritation of the whole encounter was the person attacking us for voting in a arsehole .. by asking us .. Why did WE vote for him ...
WE didn't vote for him .. THEY did ..
And all of America did not vote for him .. so hopefully the new low will pass like the others have throughout time and we can get someone normal/human/whatever in Office.
Don't dread your visit to Germany, why should you have to explain anything to total strangers ??
Don't discuss politics and if anyone says anything just say, I didn't vote for him ..
I'm thinking Scaramucci just outed himself because it sounded like a B _ _ ch Fit.
ReplyDeleteHe made a fool of himself
DeleteYes, sometimes a swear word is EXACTLY "le mot just"! I applaud that psych patient!
ReplyDeleteWe student nurses almost did debra
Deleteit's like the mafia has taken over the White House. threats and intimidation and retaliation being just generally disgusting are the order of the day and your loyalty better be to Trump and not the country. never thought I would witness the demise of American democracy in my lifetime.
ReplyDeleteIt's funny John but I was brought up in a household where it was not done to swear (Methodist!) and I have always found it almost impossible to do so. The f and c words have never passed my lips. I have no problem with other people using them (my son thinks I am hilarious) but I can't expect to change at my age. The most I would say (in extreme circumstances) is s**t or perhaps bl**dy h**l. I rather think I speak for most of my generation.
ReplyDeleteI don't like swearing either Pat. In writing and on TV it often jars my senses.
DeleteI'm with you Pat. I absolutely detest bad language. It makes my skin crawl when I hear it used or see it written. Sadly, people think you are a snob if you don't like bad language.
DeleteI've tried cussin'. It isn't a habit I'm likely to need. I never heard my mother or her nine sisters use such words. The vocabulary was never a part of our huge extended family's language, and being raised Methodist may be part of it. :) Have used one the s word and deliberately wrote "f word" (fudge) to make people think I'd used the other "f" word. :)
DeleteHearing those words on television and in movies brings them to the forefront of our thoughts, which makes it easy for them to slip past one's guard. "Dang" is my weakness.
As you all know, i do enjoy the odd cuss word..... But i generally use them to illustrate a point . I apologise if i have offended anyone...but it will continue albeit sporadically
DeleteBecause I worked in prisons, I routinely heard language that caused my hair to curl. I schooled myself to speak in a way that Pat's Methodist household would thoroughly approve, because I felt I had to set an example. Now that I'm retired, and the political situation here is as it is, I'm grateful to all those men who taught me language appropriate to the time. Even if I do say those things only in private.
ReplyDeleteWhat did you do carol?
Delete"Colorful" language by the Press Secretary is an abomination not fitting of the office. But then the rest of the administration isn't fit for office either. The inmates are in charge of the asylum now.
ReplyDeleteFoul language from a professional at work is anything but
DeleteThe senate has turned him down. The boy scouts have apologized for having him. We the people have taken the reins back. It has to work through; we elected him for four years, and the house has not yet seen fit to bring impeachment charges, but it will happen.
ReplyDeleteJoanne i would vote for you my dear x
DeleteI am no psychiatrist for sure..... but Trumps shenanigans remind me very much of Malignant Narcissistic Syndrome! There is no cure for that, behavioural therapy can be done, BUT, that person has to acknowledge the problem! We're fucked!!!!
ReplyDeleteI think he is just used to people agreeing with him too much
DeleteA big name in U.S. psychiatry violated professional ethics and diagnosed him without having ever met him. The psychiatrist's diagnosis was that he's a malignant narcissist.
DeleteI was thinking along the right lines! Brave man that psychiatrist fellow. Were there repercussions I wonder?
DeleteEach day when I read/watch the news I think "well it can't get any worse than this". Each day I am wrong! Trump is a buffoon who makes a mockery of the office of President. He is a living nightmare. It is time for him to go...and all his cronies. I see impeachment in his future.
ReplyDeleteMeryl streep would make a fantastic president
DeleteHere here, I agree. Came back to say I love your hospital chaplain story. :)
DeleteYep...Imagine how we feel. The whole administration sets a GREAT example for the young people and children.
ReplyDeleteYes i think the word role model has been forgotten in all this .. A good point
DeleteOh I miss the Obamas with every fiber of my being. This is such a nightmare.
ReplyDeleteLove him or hate him Obama had a respectful charm about him
Delete''it shows just how unstatesmanlike Bush is to pick a foul mouthed thug'' I think you meant Trump? We haven t had a Bush in office for many years.
ReplyDeleteDuh!
DeleteMy parents never swore and would keep my sister and myself inside the house if the vet or anyone else prone to bad language came to the farm. I married a man who never swears and I only use about three words if things aren't going well and only if I'm on my own. I've washed out the mouhs of all my three children with soap and water when necessary. The two boys don't use bad language and my daughter tends to write it on FB but doesn't tend to use it in our presence. When I was 19 and spending four months of my gap year with my great-aunt in California I was able to take a free college course on my visitors vidsa. I found the constant use of the f-word confusing until I realised the young people were using it as their only adjective and I was somewhat impressed by the different nuances which could be made of a single word. What seemed strange was that everyone felt "b*llsh*t" was a much more terrible word than the f one, when it didn't seem all that dreadful at all to me, and still doesn't. I know about cattle and I like the shape and sound of the word. A bit like the US TV stations which would broadcast the most awful full-on sex stories during the day when children could watch them in the guise of soap operas but put a public health warning in front of a 10pm showing of John Wyndham's Random Quest!
ReplyDeleteOveruse of any word renders it impotent
DeleteI do like that. :)
ReplyDeleteI remember being about 8 and feeling so exasperated with my big brother that I wanted to swear at him but knew I couldn't use the word bloody as it was too bad. Instead I chose a word I didn't know the meaning of and called him a bastard. I was very bewildered that mum was so very cross with me.
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ReplyDeleteJohn, you have no idea. This man is a 24/7 embarrassment to everything the office should stand for. He has brought out an unseemly side of our country that is more than a little disturbing.
The Idiot's selection of a foul mouthed little guy is going to backfire on him.
ReplyDeleteI think Trump enjoys fostering competitiveness among the people who work for him. Maybe he sees the language as an indicator of that. I agree with you, though -- Trump and his minions are thoroughly unpresidential and none of them are fit to run a McDonald's, much less a nation.
ReplyDeleteHope the flower show is going well!
You said it! Sometimes extra emphasis is needed.
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ReplyDeleteWhen I was little my older sister called me a "bedlock"! I was convinced it was a bad word and ran straight to my Mom to tell her (and hopefully get my sister in lots of trouble). I can still see the puzzled look on my Mom's face and my sister laughing her ass off around the corner! Tattle-tail justice!
ReplyDeleteI can come off with a good swear now and again but have always thought that a tirade of f this and f that show low intelligence and vocabulary.
ReplyDeleteRemember when we thought Sarah Palin was the WORST POSSIBLE THING?
ReplyDeleteHa ha good point!
DeleteI tend to use the word f**king as an adjective for everything. I once tried to go for a whole hour without saying it and couldn't. We had a good laugh about it!
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ReplyDeleteNothing nice can be said about our president. Oh how i wish there was.
ReplyDelete“Not a slave to perfection right now. f–k it. *** body shamers please f–k off ain't nobody got time for it,” she wrote on social media.
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