After Elias



 In the end I couldn't change our Les Miserables tickets on line. so had to speak to a real human being at the Sondheim theatre box office called Toby
He was dreadfully sweet and told me that I was only one of hundreds of theatre goers who he will be talking to today. The strikes have reduced the audiences by half for some nights, he told me and my sob story was just one of many. 
" We were just getting back on our feet too" he chirped sadly
I've rebooked for October

I didn't get much sleep yesterday. The weather was lovely and everyone seemed out and about. Animal Helper Pat stopped for ages for a chat. she's off with family cruising around the Med soon, which sounds delightful. and has been busy with her WI and Church activities. I reminded her of the bring and by sale next Saturday but she already has a plant sale planned
she looked well.

Mrs Trellis stopped next sans bobble hat. she seemed more  preoccupied with her own thoughts than usual and didn't stop long. As didn't Islwyn who called the dogs in turn for a cuddle at the garden wall.

I fell asleep at the kitchen table with my forehead on my arms, only walking a  short while later feeling like the Wreck of the Hesperus

Tomorrow ( now today) I will sleep in after a dog walk then I will venture over to Chester to meet an old friend Nigel for a late lunch and a chat.

This week, at Gay Book Club  I had a small row with cis gay man I will call Martin
Like me he is a powerful character who knows his own mind.
he is young, perhaps 25 and is arch to the point of rudeness and often will argue a point for the sake of arguing. 
He owns his own clothing business.
 
we were reviewing the rather moving novel After Elias by Eddy Boudal Tan which is about a gay fiancé of a dead pilot who has to piece together a complicated aftermath of a plane crash which killed his husband to be and 300 passengers, when Martin dismissed one of the women's comments of how she was moved to tears by its opening chapter as sentimental and indulgent she bit back and a somewhat barbed argument ensued.
when I reminded Martin of the ground rules of respect set out in the groups' first meeting he called me a "Gay Old Social worker" with a laugh
which shut me up, amid the tut tuts of some of the others
At coffee and biscuit time the only older guy in the group came up and asked me why I hadn't bitten back and I told him I just couldn't be arsed, which was true
but a small part of me, 
a tiny little gay twat of me,
would have liked to slapped him so hard in the back of the head that his eyes popped out


The River Dee in Chester this afternoon
We sat and ate ice cream like two middle aged gays 






72 comments:

  1. "Gay old social worker" is much more appealing than " bougie wanker"

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  2. I detest rudeness; there is NEVER an excuse for it.

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  3. I also feel that there is never an excuse for someone to initiate rudeness. Good manners is a form of kindness and tolerance and how horrible that he would say that to someone at a group meeting where everyone is opening up and being trusting of the group.

    You did well to let it go and I can so relate to your inner feelings about it. What an unpleasant and nasty person he must be.

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    1. He’s a gob shite
      And so can I be , so there’s a testosterone conflict there immediately .
      I know myself x lol

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  4. He sounds an arrogant s**t to me and will be unable to deal with homethruths fired at him in the future x

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    1. He monopolises the group which shuts up the quieter members who give up saying what they think

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  5. I prefer a 'gay old social worker' any day to the 'young full of himself' little sh*t.

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  6. And as he head bounced forward I'd slept him so hard on the front of his head. What an asshole.

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    1. Jeez... Typos much? ... As his head bounced forward, I'd have slapped him so hard on the front of his head. What an asshole.

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    2. I own my bitch slap fantasy about him
      Totally xx

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  7. Anonymous8:01 am

    You could have eyeballed the ‘cis twit’ at close range, retorted politely and then thwacked him!! You are ever the professional John and boy do I admire you. Jan in Castle Gresley

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    1. I thought of my usual cheap shoe comment but he’s immaculately dressed,, which I am not lol

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  8. Anonymous8:12 am

    Should be kicked out. That sort of person ends up stifling any true conversation. Then the more valuable people start not comimg. Tina in west oz.

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    1. The woman involved has contacted the group leader ( who wasn’t present ) apparently

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  9. Arrogant little twit. I hate to generalise but I will, men often dominate groups and don't seem to understand how conversation works. Never a need to be rude, he deserved a slap! Well done you for your restraint.

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  10. weaver9:53 am

    That sort of person with that sort of talk is just showing off his own insecurities John. If you are a 'gay old social worker' (which I doubt - more of a deep thinker and very kind and loving man to everyone you meet) then all I can say - and would have said if I had been there - is that one gay old social worker is worth a hundred silly idiots like him.

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    1. We had argued last month over Tarka the otter which was my choice of book ..I had “ won” that disagreement by asking him if he had read any books in his childhood that he would like to revisit
      When he said he had read only adult books when little , I told him he was missing a great deal ….

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    2. And one day that young man will be a "gay old friendless asshole" and he's going to deserve it.

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  11. Rest well today. He sounds rude, I wonder why he feels entitled to be critical of others, a fear of his weaknesses?

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    1. There’s always one on a committee

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  12. Sleeping on the table always ends in discomfort!

    Yes, his behaviour was unacceptable... When discussing a book you have to accept that there are many points of view as everyone comes from a different starting point

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    1. EXACTLY it’s the nature of the beast

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  13. Some people seem to be constantly looking for an argument. I bet you weren't the only one there who was itching to smack him one! Let's hope he doesn't attend again and he hasn't put the genuine people off. xx

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  14. Sigh. He's an archetype of humans that turns up at book clubs, the haughty Pedant. And they love nothing more than being superior and bullying the easily hurt. A pox on him!

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    1. We are reading his book next month and fuck I’m fucking enjoying it
      JUST BY LOOKING AT HIM by Ryan O’ Connell

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  15. And a well deserved slap it would have been. Then leave him to his own resources to crawl around looking for his eyes. Maybe a swift kick in the butt for good measure.

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    1. I think silence now is the best policy

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  16. Amazing how much we think we know when we are young and realize how much we don't know in our later years. Hopefully one day he will regret his arrogance.

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  17. Gay - yes
    Old - yes
    Social worker - yes.
    He wasn't lying then!
    How is it relevant that he owns his own clothing business?

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    1. Verity.3:02 pm

      Relevant to who indeed?

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    2. Not relevant at all , just adds a bit of background colour

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  18. Barbara Anne1:33 pm

    and you didn't come back with "Young, ignorant twit?
    Happy napping!

    Hugs!

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    1. Lol I did consider
      You’re a bit of an arsehole

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  19. Anonymous2:54 pm

    "Like me he is a powerful character"
    Time for you to buy a larger hat methinks.

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  20. Sometimes no response is best. The rudeness of some people is outrageous. I suspect he's lost all respect of the group. He might come to this conclusion, if he gives it any thought. He might also disappear entirely - which would be just fine.

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    1. That’s how we left things
      I already had a disagreement with him over my choice of novel which was a children’s book

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  21. Sometimes it's better to butt out.. You say the girl "bit back" so it sounds as if she was capable of standing up for herself and didn't need your intervention. You possibly belittled her ability to stand up for herself by butting in.

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    1. Where did it say I butted in ?
      Absolutely nowhere
      I reminded him of the ground rules of the group after the silence after their “ discussion”
      So you, are wrong “ P”
      Sigh

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  22. Glad you were able to rebook the tickets. Hope you can also book the same hotel as before since the theatre tickets are now set for October. You & Janet have an October trip to look forward to! 😊
    Ugh... book club Martin sounds like such a self-impressed, insecure, sad soul. Perhaps he'll decide the group isn't worthy of him and he'll cease attending.
    Have a relaxing and peaceful weekend.

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    1. Mimi’s is lovely , so I’ve contacted them already

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  23. It's a shame that the theaters suffer because of the bloody rail dispute. So unfair!

    Martin sounds like an arse. Will you have him back to the group? If he doesn't obey the ground rules it seems he could be reasonably asked to leave.

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    1. The group leader wasn’t there so it went a bit flat

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  24. "Cheap shoes" probably would have hit him where it hurt

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  25. I dislike rude people intensely.

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    1. Intentionally rude bullies I hate ….everyone please note xx

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  26. Anonymous6:40 pm

    You are both middle aged gays

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    1. Anonymous7:00 pm

      Middle aged? John's passed that milestone.

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    2. Anonymous8:53 pm

      In the UK one is no longer classed as middle aged when 60.

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  27. Sounds like Martin could have well used that slap to the back of his head. Is there any way he could be expelled from the group?

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  28. Ate ice cream like middle aged gays - do middle aged gays eat ice cream differently to other people then?
    Do you see yourself as "different?"
    There's a lot of hoo ha about wanting to be accepted in society yet you make continual references to being gay as if you're different. As if it's a badge you wear to constantly remind us. Heterosexuals don't continually remind everybody that they're heterosexual.

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    1. Phillipa10:58 pm

      Silly Billy.

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    3. “ bill”
      It’s the way I write.
      Like it or lump it xxx

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    4. Anonymous9:04 am

      Not nice John. Matt.

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    5. But true Matt john now fuck off

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    6. Anonymous8:46 am

      Not at all becoming of you. Sorry again John, but this kind of talk is wrong. You let this young man be condemned by a mob. Matt.

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  29. Anonymous11:48 pm

    What a very, very rude person. He should not be in the book club..he lacks manners! Ick!

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  30. Barbara7:34 am

    Group rules matter enormously if people are to feel able to speak. To belittle another's contribution is unforgivable, and will stifle debate. It will be a shame to lose respectful members because of Martin. Good decision not to slap him, I bet he would have called the police to make a complaint, although in reality, his words were more wounding. Freeze him out.

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