Monday, 10 October 2016

Unbelievable


I was astonished and somewhat saddened to hear some of the second presidential debate on the radio this morning. Clinton seemed more dignified than Trump, but the name calling and " adult themes" seemed more in place in a pub brawl rather than a discussion of who will rule the free world.
Trump is no statesman. He will never be one. If elected he will embarrass America with all of the dumb-ass skill of a drunk at a wedding reception. 
He is a redneck. A shouter. A bully.
and worst of all ,
He was rude and discourteous

I was thinking all this when I listened to radio 4 on the way homes after work early this morning.
I was thinking  this in Sainsbury's when I was buying cheap white bread for the sheep.
and I was thinking this as I was driving back up to the village. 
At the Dyserth shops, morning gridlock, a woman driver didn't give me the right of way and a shouted out a lusty " you twat! " as she drove past me oblivious she had blocked the road completely

Trump would have approved! Me thinks .

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  1. What is most shocking is that Trump isn't doing too badly in the polls. He must not be underestimated. The other shocking thing is that you buy white bread to feed to sheep?!

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    1. It's an occasional treat ! They go crazy over it!

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    2. Trump is a favorite of the KKK and other deplorables. He also has some decent people who believe that we need change and that, in itself, is not bad. His change though, is radical, cruel, self serving, mean-spirited, and out of the pages of other demigods who went down in flames taking everyone with them.

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    3. I understand the desire for change, but at what cost? I also understand the sheep's desire for a change of diet. I would go mad over Mother's Pride too if I ate nothing but grass, 364 days of the year.

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    4. He would be a continual embarrassment for 4 years .
      He would cause strife all over the US.
      It would take years to recover from his being President.
      or in his mind, Dictator of all he sees.

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    5. White bread is especially good with peanut butter and jelly on it. Have the Sheep tried that yet ?

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    6. Shhhhhhhh...I don't want them spoilt

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    7. A little sheep spoiling is ok.

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  2. I caught up with the debate this morning and must say I am saddened by the whole business. Politics has always been dirty, but never as low as this.

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    1. Absolutely ... about as low as it can get.

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  3. This is definitely a low point in America's history. It will take years for us to rise above this. He will not win, but we are forever stained.

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    1. I hope and pray you are right and he does not win.

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    2. That he is the only remaining Republican is horrifying and I wonder how he made it this far. I'm praying that he doesn't win...he's atrocious.

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    3. That he is the only remaining Republican is horrifying and I wonder how he made it this far. I'm praying that he doesn't win...he's atrocious.

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  4. Good, I think he has shot himself in the foot! If he hasn't though, what does it say about the state of America?

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    1. Sorry just caught up with yesterdays post - thanks for carrying on!

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    2. I'm an old trouper

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  5. Mud slinging par excellence! They're both as bad as each other. What a bloody prospect.

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    1. In this case, I think the repugnant man with the dead creature on his head is the worst ever choice .. party means nothing to me in this case. The choice is difficult even so .. but I hope there are enough sane people, experienced and intelligent people in the US who will not vote for D T

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    2. Actually not. There is really no comparison. it would take me pages to list all the verifiable things about Trump that make him a terrible person and a failure at everything he has put his hand to and the small businesses he has put under because he won't pay his bills telling them he thinks he's paid enough, his foundation is a scam, his university was a scam, he is involved in thousands of lawsuits, etc. Hillary on the other hand has been the target of character assassination for 25 years. 25 years of investigations and millions of dollars spent and not a single indictment, not a shred of proof or evidence of wrongdoing. she has been in service to this country all her adult life. accusations without proof are just opinions and apparently people don't understand the difference between opinion and provable claims. the republican party has been afraid of this woman since she first came on the scene and got in their faces refusing to back down and let the men carry on. Trump is a narcissistic bully who during this last debate stalked her on the dais glowering his visceral hate trying to intimidate her. These two are nothing alike.

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    3. Excellent response, Ellen! People have such a knee-jerk response to Hillary, and not an accurate one. Sadly, if she were a man with her list of accomplishments, I do believe everyone would have a better opinion of her. I will be proud to vote FOR her.

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  6. Well, and that's exactly the problem. When our leaders -- or wanna-be leaders -- act this way, and lower the expectations for what constitutes acceptable behavior in a public forum, we ALL get the message that it's OK to berate people and use foul language and whatnot. It lowers the barrier, you know? It contributes to an erosion of civility.

    God forbid Trump should get elected.

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  7. you forgot the following adjectives when describing the rump: immoral, ignorant, racist, homophobic, immature, thin-skinned, orange-faced, rug-wearing, loud, rude, indecent, misogynistic, crude, socially unacceptable, shyster, scam artist, untruthful, liar, loser, weak, argumentative, ostentatious, aggressive, obnoxious, arsehole, dickwad, douchebag.

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    1. Well said, Anne Marie. I'm in Trenton, we should get together to see if we can come up with more wonderful words to describe Trump the Chump!

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    2. That more or less covers it!
      I would add utterly repellant toerag.

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    3. Totally utterly repugnant ...if I were speaking as a Valley Girl
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  8. Can't we just say we are sorry for the American Revolution and ask the Queen to take charge? It is a brutal election, it is exposing a lot of dissatisfaction with government, and the real issue is deeply divided partisan politics in Congress. Trump is a provocateur, and Hillary kept taking the bate last night.

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    1. I will practice my curtsey ..

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  9. I was poised to enter the debate but can't go on. The very fact he keeps referring to Hilary as she is enough for me. Good Luck America.

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  10. We don't have tv so I didn't watch it. I'll try to read the transcript online today. We live in a rural area in the heart of "Trump!" country. I really do not get what all of these people think he's going to do for them. Besides make things much, much worse.

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    1. That will be better, you won't have to look at him .. he is amazingly ugly.

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  11. All I have to do is see his ugly petulant face with that dead animal lying on top of his head and I want to weep for what the United States is doing to itself.
    He is everything we do not need. I am convinced that there are too many people that think because he is rich , he can lead a country like the USA.
    At least Hillary has a bit of experience. She knows how to be diplomatic. I see him and I hear Doom .. we will be ruined for years to come with that man in the White House.

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  12. I wonder if the driver was the same one who nearly ran you down when you was walking along the lane a while back. If I recall correctly you mooned at her in response! As for the Trump/Clinton debate - they are so busy bickering I don't think I know what any of their policies are except something about building a wall. How about building bridges instead?

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    1. I'd show my arse to trump any day

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    2. Would you then trump at Trump too? :)

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  13. As a citizen of the good, old USA, this year's field of presidential candidates reminds me of the phrase "evil of two lessers". I'm a depression era, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, New Deal, Square Deal, Great Society Democrat. I'll hold my nose and vote for Hillary, but I fear that Richard Nixon's "great silent majority" may swing things to Trump. As FDR said "This nation will endure as it has endured", regrettably, we'll pull everyone else along for the ride.

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    1. I can only hang on to hope that he loses.

      Or gets hit by a bus

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  14. It's interesting to note about american presidents and candidates to presidency:
    The Kennedys - womanizers and nepotism
    Bush and son - nepotism
    Bill Clinton - womanizer
    Hillary and Bill Clinton - nepotism and corruption
    Obama is the cherry in the cake. He won;t leave the throne quietly. After the "arab spring" fiasco he'll probably start a war with Russia. Since America can't win in a conventional war (yeah, with all the technology, maybe because of it) she'll have to use the nuke like in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    May GOD help us!

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  15. The trouble with Trump is that he seems to respect no-one but himself. Like his name he leaves a bad smell in his wake.

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  16. He draws his support from the uneducated and ill informed. The people who think government is conspiring against them, those people have been easily brainwashed my the the right wing and religious fanatics. I still believe most thinking Americans see through his ineptness and will make the only proper decision come November - God help us all if that unstable man ever has access to the nuclear codes.

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  17. You have no idea how it feels to be a woman in the US right now. We are sickened that this piece of slime, this sexual predator, this completely inadequate man has the possibility of being the president.
    It is intolerable and it is a reality we never thought we'd face.

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  18. I have just stopped watching - and listening to - any of it John - I am just so appalled by his views and his behaviour. Frankly it is beneath my digity to even look at him - and I hope many of his so called supporters finally come to their senses.

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    1. Sadly, they won't Pat. The rest of us will just have to take the high road.

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  19. Yes John i agree with you.... I agree with alot of what Trump has to say... especially about immigration and some other points... but he has proven time and again that he is not Presidential material....and your right i would be embarrassed to have him as president.. I'm not pleased with Hillary either... But i do think she is the more sane of the two... I feel i should be more excited that we may have our first woman president... i want to be... but i'm afraid she just might win by default... Hugs! deb

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    1. Oh Jinxxygirl, I so agree with what you have said.
      But right now I am leaning Libertarian. Who know who I will vote for I to mail my ballot in.

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  20. I have stopped following along with this ridiculous political circus. I thought our own politics was bad enough but mervica seem to be plumbing new depths.

    I think it's atrocious that sheep love cheap white bread as much as they do .... but they do don't they. They have no taste!!

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    1. Haha .... mervica should obviously read America, I'm really struggling with our new keyboard for some reason!!

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  21. I can't wait until it's over.

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  22. Trust that I will not be voting for either of these candidates. Frankly they are both frightening. Unsure what impact my vote elsewhere will have, but my conscience will not allow me to stand with either Trumpthegrump or Hills.

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  23. Robert De Niro summed it up perfectly.
    Arilx

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    1. I saw the video on Tom Stephensons blog...he didn't pull his punches did he?

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  24. Less than a month to go now until Election Day. It's quite likely that the campaigns have yet to hit their lowest points.

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  25. It is a sad choice. The lesser of two evils. A proven liar, thief and deceiver of record or someone who will make up rules as they go? Every one seems to have forgotten the Constitution and their manners.

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  26. Bella, my nine year old granddaughter, said she heard that Trump said to grab girls by the vagina. The littles are listening and talking about it.

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    1. How sad, a presidential debate that could not be viewed by the children of the nation

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    2. No presidential debate should be viewed by children.

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  27. It's the last chapter of 'Merica as we know it John. Sad to say.

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  28. It's truly embarrassing to see the two of them trying to better each other. Since Trump likes to call people names, my nickname for him is Trump the Chump. Enough said.

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  29. Trump is an EMBARASSMENT.....I will be spending more time out of the US if he wins, and he will NEVER be my president...
    He answered NONE of the questions last night. Had I been Hillary, I would have to stop and tell him to calm down and blow his DAMN NOSE...the sniffing drove me crazy.....

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  30. Tried to finish the above...many people have suggested cocaine use as cause of his incessant sniffing...

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  31. I live in an extremely Republican county in the extremely Republican state of Texas. Fellow Democrats here have to identify ourselves to each other by a secret handshake and the code words "The owl flies at night." Just kidding about that, but not by much. Everyone assumes that everyone else is a Republican, so that allows them to say freely all the despicable crap that the Right Wingers have been spewing about Hillary for 30 years. Democrats in my town can't even put out campaign yard signs because GOP troglodytes steal them as soon as they appear. I have overheard voters who were waiting in line at the polls say that they always vote Republican no matter what because "that's what you're supposed to do, aren't you?" After last night's debate, I awoke early in a depressed mood while it was still dark, thinking about the image of Donald Trump stalking Hillary during the debate like the predator he is. It hit me that he has caused great damage to our country that may never be repaired by allowing all the misogynists, racists, and xenophobes to come out of the closet. They now feel perfectly free to "tell it like it is" like Donald does. We will never be the same.

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    1. I noticed that he was intimidating physically
      Scary

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    2. He does that to everyone, showing his true colors, bullying anyone who gets in his way.

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  32. I'm not going to get into the Trump thing because it scares me too much, but I will just say that I"m concerned that in many parts of the world we could be with a concerted effort to improve the courtesy of our interactions, and with quiet dignity to insist on better manners, especially in public, and public forums (like the internet). Trolls and rudeness is just not acceptable.

    Rant over!

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    1. Statesmen and women are needed in this terribly violent world.
      Tact is needed in bucket loads

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  33. My daughter had right of way when a young man in a four wheel drive drove straight at her forcing her onto the pavement. As he passed her she mouthed,
    " My right of way " The wanker did a slow hand clap. If Jess had hit someone on the pavement he would have been responsible - there were witnesses who had all pulled in between the parked cars to let her pass.
    As for the US elections I will be glad when it's all over.

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    1. I have never forgotten what A teacher in a defensive driving course told us: No one HAS the right of way, but you do have the ability to YIELD the right of way to another. Big difference. Lots of people have died thinking they had the right of way.

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  34. I will not vote for either one. They both are horrible disgusting poor excuses for humans.
    My x knew someone in the Clinton circle and it is bad very horrific beyond bad. She hides it all by lies and blaming others Trump is what you see. In reality they are both the same just one has the thin candy coating.
    Both parties have shot themselves in the foot and our heads. Deals were made for Billary to shut up and accept Bill and Obama. Then she could run with the DNC blessings.
    Trump shocked everyone because of what he was saying at the start. What many the of disenfranchised voters and taxpayers like me have been saying but no one listens in Washington. Trump then went too far No one stepped up and now we are paying the price. Either one who gets elected especially billary, I and people my age will am be push aside again and have open our pocketbook more and more for less and less.
    As much as I want this fiasco to be over, I dread the next 4 years.
    Where I live will be an even bigger disaster danger zone. We are already paying a huge price.
    And no one cares.

    cheers, parsnip

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    1. I think people should vote tactically ...hate both, vote for th one who may make fewer mistakes

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  35. I know it is just a dream ... but what if No One Voted ? :)

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    1. Too many have already voted. They let people vote even before the debates. (You know the type - "Hey, don't bother me with facts....")

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    2. And another thing ... the people don't actually elect the president - the electoral college does and they are not bound by popular vote count.

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  36. It seems to be a choice of what type of s*it would you rather tread in!

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  37. Might be the first time since I was legally able to vote, that I probably won't. If I do, I will write in a candidate or vote Libertarian. I've never been able to figure out how Trump got to this point.

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    1. That's very simple. People got fed up with politically correctness.

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    2. political correctness that so many people seem to be so sick of is in other words, simply common decency and politeness. it is what lets a nation of many different kinds of people live together in peace. how are we better with this new attitude of saying any hateful thing about and to any body we don't like. we aren't better. we've become a nation of people who harangue strangers over their WIC card in the grocery line when you have no idea what their story is or attacking people physically because of the color of their skin or using derogatory language to and about people who aren't like you. we are a nation of people who have decided to wallow in the gutter.

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    3. I agree with much you have written but...
      When you see what many people do here where I live in a border town for money at legal citizens expense you would cringe.
      It is a fairy tale (but a nice one) to have everyone live together in peace when so many are the takers without any common decency. We put our hands out to help and get disrespect instead. If we are wallowing in the gutter maybe it is because we were pushed there.

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  38. I feel you have to vote .
    In this case it is more important than who you like or prefer, it is to try to save us /everyone /the US from the harm he can and will do.

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  39. As with elections every where...there doesn't appear to be much to choose from in this election. God help America and the planet if Donald Trump is elected.

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  40. Oh Dear John, from the very start of this mess I said," How embarrassing this is, everyone is watching. Our country will be a laughing stock." And also, we vote early because we are well informed and wish to pledge our allegiance as soon as possible. You got it right, John. God help us ALL if he becomes our leader.

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    1. Ithink even if u hate Clinton, at least she is statesmanlike , so everyone should vote for her .......
      Trump MUST be stopped at all cost.........and that's a Brit talking

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    2. I will cast my vote for Clinton, I am not being sucked into the trash bin that he is opening. I will not EVER "believe him, cause he hears things". I don't know why you would think that I could hate Hilary Clinton though.

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  41. I plan to vote for Hillary with gusto.

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  42. But......I honestly cannot abide Hillary!

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    1. Think of the alternative ......at least she has a certain amount of credibility

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    2. All the time having her hand out for money !

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  43. There is only one good thing about Trump-

    he has exposed the bigots, racists and misogynists in our lives, people who we know now not to trust, or spend time with.

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    1. Excellent point! I have written off a couple of people who exposed those sides of themselves!

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  44. The most frightening thing about T***p is actually not his boorishness. He is, admittedly, the worst we've seen, but being a jackass isn't a crime; it's just embarrassing.

    What is truly scary is that he has no understanding of the Constitution (along with many Americans, usually Republicans but not always).

    For instance, before you get to the Second Amendment and its guns, we have a First Amendment, guaranteeing freedom of religion and specifically saying we don't have a national religion. So, where is the authority for opposing LGBTs, etc., and making abortion, which was passed legally, a crime, based on your perception of Christianity?

    And that good ol' First Amendment also guarantees freedom of the press, and T***p's banning some from his campaign for differing views, is deeply disturbing. A free press, like 'em or not, is essential to a democracy.

    I could go on, but this is too long already. We aren't a dictatorship (yet) or oligarchy (yet, I hope), and as Michael Douglas said in 'The American President,' democracy is hard. If you don't have the guts for it, don't try it.

    And that's before threatening to jail your opponent. You don't even joke about that. It's not funny.

    Phew. The most fun thing last night was all the people on Twitter saying, "Help! Help! I'm watching the debate and I've run out of wine!" :-)

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  45. Our founding fathers must be rolling over in their graves! This election isn't bringing out the best candidates nor, sadly, the best in it's citzentry. If anyone disagrees with you, they take it personally. It's all too much. There isn't enough wine in the world to make this go away...

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  46. While his neck is red, I strongly disagree with "redneck" being used to classify old Donnie. I am a redneck;and I, nor any other rednecks that I know of, are anything like him. I am not a shouter or a bully. Neither am I rude or disrespectful. A jackass he is for sure, but please, DO NOT liken him to a redneck.Sincerely, one of slightly offended redneck followers

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  47. I don't think I will comment as I'm afraid I might offend someone.

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  48. I have been wondering about something, particularly why is he over and over again bringing up Bill's indiscretions. Is Bill running for office? At least Hillary has a sense of who she really is and that everyone knows she comes from the old school: till death do us part ( which I think it is ridiculous because I am still married to my husband and he died 4 years ago) and while there is or could be ambition as the reason that is not for me to judge, or even to comment For someone who's affairs made the front page of the gossip columns for months, and who thinks of women as disposable, and the only thing missing from that lurid and disgusting comment about how he thinks of, and treats women was the classic "oh, but she loved it" He is the poster child of narcissism, a sociopath with a deep conviction of entitlement. Our country will be in deep trouble if this tin dictator better suited for a banana republic, who involuntarily showed his true character by threatening her with jail,could win anything but a trip to a sanitarium, we will be subjected to another sample of North Korea. Our laws will be perverted and we all better find a place to move as far away from this maniac as possible because his only thought is to bomb Daesh until Kingdom comes so just think what the results of the madness will be. If you love your children and are reading this at home be sure to understand that a vote for him is a vote for the world to end as we know it. it.Last night someone asked me what do I fear the most about him and I said that I know in my heart of heart he will rape our democracy, allow every thing that is wrong with uneducated people to be the new America. What we called Politically corrected when I was growing up was called good manners.And as for the republicans it may serve them well to remember that when you make a deal with the devil, you end in Hell, We shall be so lucky..

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    1. Well said. I'm traveling in Italy for a couple of weeks and keep feeling I should wear a "No Trump" button. So ashamed he's gotten this far.

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  49. Unbelievable to say the least . . .
    Embarrassing . . .
    The current climate has totally captured, divided, polarized our country.
    Civility seems to have vanished . . .
    I find it quite sad . . .
    Grabbing on to resilience . . .

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  50. Any American who is thinking of abstaining from the vote needs to change their mind, and fast!
    Even if you hate both candidates, choose the one you hate less and give them your vote!
    The only way to stop Trump and his idiot supporters is to vote the other way, if you choose not to vote you could help Trump into office!

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    1. Well said, Col. Every non-vote only supports Trump.

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  51. Did you know that donald trump was mentioned in a psychology textbook as a classic example of a narcissistic personality disorder patient? Come on America, can't you see he's a nut case?

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    1. Hello, Jan, I had no idea but any one in our profession who has a bit of experience does recognize that. What worries me even more is that people like him are ready with the stone behind their backs to hit anyone, and I mean anyone, who they could perceived as a dissenter.

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  52. He is helping to kill the NEW American Dream every time he opens his mouth...the New American Dream being "we need and support each other".

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  53. I have been saying "he's a bully"from the first, everyone hee-hee 'd me now they are adding words I cant put here. He's certainly not getting my vote,but I as an American, I am ashamed of him every day.As of just a bit ago, we were told of two women coming forward with alligations about his conduct. His response, sue the paper who printed the stories.I wait, wine bottle in
    hand, for his concession speech. It will be "it was rigged" or some sort of BS.He reminds me of a "dictator in training" That my friend,across the pond, is what he is. My poor country.

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  54. Many of us here in the US are very ashamed and mortified that Trump has gotten as far as he has and that the whole tone of public debate has been lowered to such a level. I've seen a shocking increase in racist and sexist and just plain rude public comments, and I'm sure it's because his hate-filled behavior is making it seem "okay" to express disgusting sentiments publicly. I am praying that his followers come to their senses before November, otherwise some of us may be seeking asylum in Trelawnyd.

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